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  1. Welcome to my Build Diary and Problem solving thread The Machine -> Will be done when i'm finished Background Why Voron? I'm into 3D printing for a long time now nearly 10 years. I like the thinkering and building much more than the 3D printing to be honest. Recently i moved to a new house. Got more space. So i thought lets build a Voron, i mean you know how it goes... I built a few printers before. Mostly Prusa tho. Why Siboor kit ? I wanted to go with a Kit for starters. So there is only Formbot or Siboor if you dont want to pay LDO Premium... Sadly Magic Phoenix seems to be out of commission (the guy running it is very sick). While Formbot is a household name, their Kit has a lot of stuff that just looks good and does not work relay well. For example the Filament Sensors, I experimented with that kind of Sensor in my beginnings and it just does not work reliably. Also a metal brush is outdated with a electrical sensor. And some stuff like Bakelite is just a gimmick. After all it came down to: Do i want to do the slow TAP or the faster Cartographer. Also i read a few times on reddit, that the quality of Siboor has improved in the last 2 years or so. So i was open to them. Siboor tries to ship a finished product in pieces. So all the firmware is in place. They have an actual manual (Looking at you Formbot....), they have a github with pictures of the stuff they changed. So way better than formbot. Then i hopped on their Discord (which has more members than the Formbot one) and talked to a few people there. They all seemd to be happy with their build. Most Problems that popped up there i could attribute to: not enough Linux knowledge, don't reading the manual, don't reading other stuff besides the manual. So I would guess that 40% of those problems would fit in that category. The other ones the community there is happy to help. Felt there is a good vibe. Even Siboor has 2 tech employees monitor the discord and you can ask them for help if need be but the response time to china is like half a day. But they are somewhat eager to help as well. Some people their talked to me about their build experience and it was good to very good, depending on the knowlege of the person about Linux,electrics and so on. No major issues like burned out PSUs or something or general Build trouble. Then i found some scarce reviews of their newer Kits on the Web. Basically all said its at least an OK or better Kit. Then i found some really helpful videos on youtube about their 2023 Aug kit. This guy received his kit in the beginning of 2024, is an electrical engineer or something at least someone with knowledge about that stuff and he generally gave Siboor a good rating with their electronics. This was important for me. Fire safety and all that.. Then finally i found a few post of people actually printing stuff and taking good photos. The quality was very good. I know i know but somehow people seem to be reluctant to post pictures of their prints in the voron community to judge the quality of the machnies/kits... I will flood this thread with them to alleviate this problem a bit.... I find it a great help to look at the actual print quality. I know this depends on a lot of factors but for me if they are good at least i can rule out bad part quality as an issue because no amount of tuneing can hide those flaws. This sealed the deal for me. Other Problems like a missing resistor on the SB Board are present in Formbot and in Siboor i imagine. So this not the fault of their Kit. Nonetheless i looked for a few issues i would encounter during build and ai found some but as i said, mostly hardware related from BBT or general Issue (el. static in the boden tube...) So anyway i just ordered my Kit today. The Project is named 24 because i intend to finish this in 2024. I have very little free time and this serves as constant reminder for me to get on with it. Thanks to @indi8six for his Project 7000 Build this is very detailed and helped me even now in the beginning stages. You can read it here: Additions/Mods: As i dived into the Voron cosmos is became clear that there where some Mods i wanted to do right away because it is apparent to me that this will help with the build quality and easy of use. I opted to do those right away and not wait and there the printer apart later. So here is my main mod list to start with: - AB_PinMod - Annex_Pannel_Clips - BeefyIdlers - Galileo2Extruder - KlipperExpander - TheFilter - VEFACH - Z_Holder_GE5C - Z_Umbilical - Extrusion Backers (steel) - Rubber Nozzle wiper - Disco on a Stick - Fan Failure detection board - Fire Suppression System from Blazecut Status of this Build Diary (1.09.24): - Started building....
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